Dec 6, 2012 3:00am PST
. you actually have diplomats from europe going to the syrian border, in some cases inside syria with suitcases of money to hand out to the political factions we support who can hand this out to local operatives there and you know, it is like chicago-style politics. this is more like your territory here. so imagine chicago -- >> wait a minute. >> i haven't had suitcases of money in my life. >> but if you did -- >> bill: right. >> so you see the effort to beef up the more secular forces to oppose the islamist forces that are present in the opposition. >> one thing we hear a lot from republicans is the idea that obama backed the arab spring and got involved and has made things not -- has made things worse in the middle east. do you feel like with this assad thing, will we be better off without him and having this opposition in charge instead? do you feel like it is the right thing to do? >> yes. it is the right thing to do. it is what is happening. it is not like we control this situation. this is a region that's in evolution. that's in turmoil. this is going to be going on for decades.